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 Podcast #23 - Divorced Dad Minute - Divorce 101: Step Four - Negotiation: Play Now | Play in Popup | Downloads 1204

Let's examine the next step of Divorce 101:

STEP #4: Negotiation - Most people rely on 1 or 2 negotiating strategies. Study, learn and apply the skills required to negotiate. Increase your options and you are closer to a creative win/win solution.

Most people rely on one or two negotiating strategies to persuade others to see things their way. Rarely will having only one or two negotiating options work in your favour. Especially if the person you are negotiating with has more options.  You need to study, learn and apply new skills to become a better negotiator. Go to a bookstore and you can find all kinds of books on negotiation.

Our recommendation: The Harvard Negotiating Project has a series of books. “Getting to Yes” by Roger Fisher, William Ury, Bruce Patton is your best option in our opinion, to begin your educational process when it comes to becoming a better negotiator.

Communication really is the key component to any negotiation strategy and as you can see, these steps in Divorce 101 all begin to build on one another. When you increase your options, you're much closer to a creative win-win solution. Plus if you go into Family Court out of true necessity, you will have a far better appreciation of the subtleties of negotiation with your ex-wife’s lawyer and even the Judge when in the midst of a hearing about an issue for temporary and/or final orders.

Negotiation is one of the primary tools Family Court Judge’s expect both Mom and Dad to engage in to resolve a problem. When one person becomes totally inflexible, that often, (but not always) tells the Family Court Judge who the real problem is. To avoid that sort of label you want to learn how to “Think Before You Speak”.

Roy J. Lewicki, Alexander Hiam and Karen Wise Olander’s “Think Before You Speak”: A Complete Guide to Strategic Negotiation,  is the second book we’d recommend. On the back cover of the hard cover, there’s a great chart which summarizes the negotiating process and what each step consists of:

STEP 1: Analyze Strategic Issues: Overview/Plan; Assess your position and the other party; Analyze the Context the Situation is Taking Place In

STEP 2: Select A Strategy…

STEP 3: Initiate The Negotiation Process: Competition; Collaboration; Other Strategies

STEP 4: Manage The Negotiation Process: Building Collaboration; Resolving Conflict; Third Party Help To Resolve Conflict; Communicating; Legal Ethical Issues; Dealing With Multiple Parties in Negotiations; Global Negotiation

STEP 5: Obtain Outcomes And Learn From The Experience: Improving Negotiation

These five steps are the distilled into…

===> The Twelve Rules of Strategic Negotiation <===

RULE 1:     Wait! Take it slow. Take time to plan before you act.

RULE 2:     Define your bargaining range, and what you’ll accept in the worst case scenario.

RULE 3:     Define your interests: What do you want, what do you need and why?

RULE 4:     Pursue and protect your needs, not your position.

RULE 5:     Follow the eight steps of negotiation planning in Chapter One.

RULE 6:     THE OTHER PARTY holds the key to success.

RULE 7:     POWER gives you leverage over BOTH the outcome and the relationship.

RULE 9:     Don’t compete unless you are prepared to…LOSE

RULE 10:    Reciprocate “unfairly”…

RULE 11:    TRUST is easier to destroy than it is to build.

RULE 12:    INVEST in negotiations WISELY.

Resources such as these two books are an investment in time well spent to learn the skills necessary to de-escalate situations before they get out of control. They are also an investment for when they do get out of control and land in Family Court: You NEVER want a Family Court Judge thinking you are the problem. Therefore, invest time in learning how to become a better negotiator to reduce legal fees, and to re-position yourself within your facts as the problem solver, not as the troublemaker…

To avoid that sort of label you need to set aside some time for these two books. Don’t expect miracles at first; You simply need to put in some time to learn how to see things differently then you have been raised to since childhood, because “Getting To Yes” from your ex-wife often means you need to learn how to “Think Before You Speak”. As we move through the tips in Divorced Dad Minute, you’ll begin to see that with greater clarity.

The payoff from investing in this approach is less stress because you now have begun the process of divorce management through education. A less stressed parent, is a better parent. One that kids can relate to in an easier way. Making your children feel more at ease is a HUGE part of your strategy when “waging peace”. \

And isn’t that what it’s all about?

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 Divorced Dad Minute # 22 - Divorce 101: Step Three - Education: Play Now | Play in Popup | Downloads 1138

The next step of Divorce 101 is:

STEP #3: Education - Believe solutions exist and you will begin to see them. Books, tapes, professionals, support groups, self-help resources provide ideas. Without ideas, the process grinds to a halt.

Here’s a short story to contemplate:

Many years ago, In Halifax, Nova Scotia, we were at a conference for issues pertaining to shared parenting. We’d never been to Halifax before. After settling in and grabbing some dinner, we went to a local downtown bookstore in search of books that we might not have seen elsewhere. It’s something we do when we travel, keep our eyes and ears open for new solutions to the problems and challenges we ourselves face in different areas of our life, and in areas that our clients find challenging.

Within 90 seconds we found a book call “Co-Parenting” by Miriam Galper, so of course we purchased it.

The next day Danny was scheduled to speak. He opened his talk with this example:

“I have never been to Halifax before. It’s a very beautiful city. Upon my arrival I settled in, had dinner, and as is my custom in new places, I go to local bookstores, seeking solutions to the problems and challenges we ourselves face and that our clients face. When I found this book “Co-Parenting” by Miriam Galper. It’s full of many solutions to some of the challenges you are facing that brought you to this conference today. If I can find this book, full of solutions in your town, after only being here for 2-3 hours, imagine what you could find. After all, you live here…”

Think about it - open your eyes and begin believing that there is a solution to your problems. Then go out and begin expecting to find those solutions. It is in creating such a world view and approach to your challenges (notice we’re using the word challenges instead of the word problems…), that solutions are born…

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Our topic for this Sunday's call is “The Divorced Dad Roadmap - The Losing Hand”. Tonight's call continues The Divorced Dad Roadmap training calls for 2008. The Divorced Dad Roadmap is a process in which you can begin your preparations and review your progress as you prepare for Family Court proceedings. 

Do you even recognize when you have THE LOSING HAND? Many divorced dads are completely oblivious to what is going on around them. They are either in denial or so self centered they are effectively blind to the realities around them. Others are plagued by what I call "The Hope against Hope Syndrome". These divorced dads bury their head in the  sand hoping it will all go away, or that a better  hand might be dealt.

They refuse to play the hand they are dealt, let alone see if they can improve upon it. Others play out the hand they are dealt simply because they are what is known as "The Patsy", someone who loses everything because they don't know the rules of the game, yet pretend that they do. The expert card player can spot these players a mile away.

It's the same in all life situations, including Family Court.

 Using as a backdrop a story about "Alex", whose father took him for his first drink to "The Peeler Bar", we find this soon to be divorced dad in way over his head in a few months time, simply because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and compounded that with being oblivious to who was there, and what he was saying…

Can you improve THE LOSING HAND? Absolutely. If you FOCUS on eliminating it as it manifests in your daily life. That's the hard part though - recognizing old habits and correcting oneself in the moment is the key. BUT it requires constant vigilance and effort. Sometimes it is hard to distinguish the WINNING HAND from THE LOSING HAND - Sometimes they are one and the same, depending entirely on perspective

Is your glass half empty or half full? Depends on what you as a person value and accentuate in the way you view the outside world, events and circumstances. It is the same way with THE LOSING HAND.

The Divorced Dad Road Map: "The Losing Hand" will teach you the skills you will need to successfully navigate through Family Court from finding the right lawyer, to how to conduct yourself in the many situations that will unfold during the Family Court process when it comes to "gamesmanship"

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 Divorced Dad Minute # 21 - Divorce 101: Part Three: Step Two - Communication: Play Now | Play in Popup | Downloads 1373

Let's examine the next step of Divorce 101:

STEP #2: Communication - Learn to apply these skills: Regulation of self-talk, Reframing of how you see and describe a situation to yourself and others, Persuasion and Influence. These skills enable proper comprehension and articulation of the problems. This always leads many creative solutions.

You need to learn to apply these skills, regulation of self-talk, meaning the way that you talk to yourself; reframing, when you're thinking negatively, reframe the situation into something positive.  The powers of persuasion and influence will be skills that go a long way to helping you in family court in your negotiations.

These are really important steps to learn and skills to master. The place to begin is to accept that the how you communicate to yourself and others has a HUGE impact on your outcome. By taking responsibility for the impact of your communication on yourself and others, you can literally turn a situation around through reframing and repositioning yourself into best position possible circumstances within the set of facts that make up your Family Court case.

First begin with the little voice in your head. If you’re prone to accentuating the negative in any situation, then you need to train and condition your mind “to seeing the glass as half full, instead of seeing the glass as half empty…”. The manner in which you describe the world to yourself affects how you see the world, and how you interact with it. Being negative, contrary, argumentative or communicating in any manner that others don’t want to listen to is your “wake up call” to examine how you describe and see the world to yourself.

So first focus on the voice inside your head. Begin a process of reconditioning the way you talk and communicate internally. If you’re having difficulty, then apply Step One - Invigoration to “break the circuit” of negativity in your self-talk. Remember, physiology will affect your feelings and your feelings will affect your communication, especially how you see and describe things to yourself.

The next stage is to examine the impact of how you communicate to others. You need to develop a burning desire to master the principles of human relations, and apply those principles at every opportunity. Make it into a game and try to catch yourself violating those principles.  ThTake responsibility for the impact of your words. Pick up at your local bookstore the book:

"How to Win Friends, and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. It's available as a paperback book just about anywhere books are sold.

This book is one of the biggest selling books of ALL time. You don't even need to read it cover to cover, BUT we suggest you do, To get the most immediate impact, read the summaries at the end of each chapter. That's about 8 very short pages. This book will teach you the following four areas of “communication mastery”:

PART 1: The Three Fundamental Techniques in Handling People

PART 2: The Six Ways To Make People Like You

PART 3: The Twelve Strategies How to Win People To Your Way of Thinking

PART 4: The Nine Principles of How To Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment

In total there are 30 Dale Carnegie Communication Principles divided over these four parts of his book. When you have a communication problem review these 8 summarized pages of principles, and then dig into the specifics that you think may be the root of the problem from the perspective of what you are communicating.

You can’t change how people see you and think about you without first changing yourself. Step 2 - Divorce 101: Communication is the method to access the tool you need to get the job done right the first time, instead of resorting to blaming someone else for all your problems.

The mastery of communication skills, as taught in the Dale Carnegie Book: "How to Win Friends, and Influence People" leads to better creative solutions for divorced dads. Taking the principles in this book to heart is one of the most fundamental and powerful strategies when “waging peace” in Family Court.
 
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 Divorced Dad Minute # 20 - Divorce 101: Part Two: Step One - Invigoration: Play Now | Play in Popup | Downloads 1158

Let's examine the next step of Divorce 101:

STEP #1: Invigoration - The death of one's family brings about 4 stages: Denial, Anger, Grieving and Acceptance. Vigorous physical activity helps
lower stress. This supports problem solving which leads to Acceptance.

This step is the foundation to all others: How you feel (physiology) affects how you think (psychology), and how you think affects how you feel.

Lets take a deeper look at this: Your "physiology" affects your "psychology" and vice versa. Here's an example - You just got the dream job, or won the lottery, or maybe won the day in Family Court, your body language will be consistent with those results.  Others will see a very happy fellow…

Conversely if you just lost the dream job, lost your life's savings and got your backside kicked in Family Court, you'll likely be feeling pretty low down and depressed, and your body language will be consistent with those thoughts of depression.

Invigoration is an attempt to override how you feel by putting yourself into a "peak mental state". It's a management tool to modify behaviour. In the context we are suggestion invigoration is physical activity designed to help lower your stress and support. problem-solving.

This approach eventually leads you to the acceptance of your problem and to finding and applying the ultimate best solution that focuses on what's best for the children.
 
So here's the next equation:

Invigoration = Stress Management.

Why?

Invigoration comes about through some form of  vigorous exercise, such as a very brisk walk, jogging, swimming 50 laps in the pool, weight lifting or anything else that makes you break a sweat. This activity leads to stress reduction.

Stress reduction from invigoration will always begin to promote clear thinking during divorce. Therefore now you have a "Stress Management" system which forms the foundation of  "Divorce Management Plan".

After all you can't properly strategize and plan under stress unless you have a way to manage and dissipate it. So every divorced dad needs to consider this first step, in order to regain clarity and objectivity during the stress of the Family Court Process.

Remember, kids cope to the degree that parents cope during divorce. Now you have a better management system for your kids to emulate when things get rough during divorce.

Plus it's something you can actually do together to feel good that's healthy and fun. So when either you or your kids get depressed over the situation, you now have the tool to begin to fix the problem.

You might be surprised how this also opens up the communication between you and your kids. And that's the next step we'll be dealing with in Divorce 101: Communication.

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 Divorce 101 - Part 1: Introduction: Play Now | Play in Popup | Downloads 1122

Today, we're introducing the steps to Divorce 101.  This is an overview of seven steps to divorce healing. For the next several installments, we're going to be going through each and every one of these steps in more detail.  These are the fundamentals of your divorce management plan.

STEP #1: Invigoration - The death of one's family brings about 4 stages: Denial, Anger, Grieving and Acceptance. Vigorous physical activity helps lower stress. This supports problem solving which leads to Acceptance.

STEP #2: Communication - Learn to apply these skills: Regulation of self-talk, Reframing of how you see and describe a situation to yourself and others, Persuasion and Influence. These skills enable proper comprehension
and articulation of the problems. This always leads many creative solutions.

STEP #3: Education - Believe solutions exist and you will begin to see them.  
Books, tapes, professionals, support groups, self-help resources provide ideas. Without ideas, the process grinds to a halt.

STEP #4: Negotiation - Most people rely on 1 or 2 negotiating strategies. Study, learn and apply the skills required to negotiate. Increase your options and you are closer to a creative win/win solution.

STEP #5: Mediation - A professional mediator can help when the lines of communication break down. Mediators are trained in conflict resolution.  This strategy is extending and "olive branch of peace". Most divorced dads give up the idea of using mediation when Mom won't participate. You however have a better game plan: As an alternative, you'll attend sessions by yourself, to improve and learn new communication skills from a mediator. When mediation is used in this manner it is a "cornering" strategy designed to demonstrate who is focused on making things better through example.

STEP #6: Enrichment - Consult a child psychologist. They can assist with parenting enrichment & a parenting plan. This will heal your child from the impact of the divorce by undersatnding, appreciating and learning how you can best meet your child's developmental needs.

STEP #7: Litigation - The  absolute last resort. If you have taken the time to methodically work through these steps properly, you can establish that you have the skills and the willingness to work things out. Sometimes it will be the most effective step, but you MUST not simply skip over the other steps. By objectively working your way through the steps that seem most appropriate, you will enhance the prospect of reaching this goal:

These are the steps to applying this formula successfully:

Winning = Peace For Your Child
 
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Our topic for this Sunday's call is “The Divorced Dad Roadmap - The Losing Attitude”. Tonight's call continues The Divorced Dad Roadmap training calls for 2008. The Divorced Dad Roadmap is a process in which you can begin your preparations and review your progress as you prepare for Family Court proceedings. 

Do you even recognize when you have THE LOSING ATTITUDE? Many divorced dads don't even recognize that their entire family history may have led them to The LOSING ATTITUDE. Using as a backdrop a story about "Dave", whose ffather taught him that he will get screwed again and again and again, so he better look out for himself, we meet dave and his boyhood buddies as they have a few beers while they check out the local hotties like Little Miss Tight Sweater.

As the story progresses, we see how Dave's way of seeing things have permeated every aspect of his life, and the consequences that flow from this unfortunate perspective.

Can you improve THE LOSING ATTITUDE? Absolutely. If you FOCUS on eliminating it as it manifests in your daily life. That's the hard part though - recognizing old habits and correcting oneself in the moment is the key. BUT it requires constant vigilance and effort. Sometimes it is hard to distinguish the WINNING ATTITUDE from THE LOSING ATTITUDE - Sometimes they are one and the same, depending entirely on perspective

Is your glass half empty or half full? Depends on what you as a person value and accentuate in the way you view the outside world, events and circumstances. It is the same way with THE LOSING ATTITUDE.

The Divorced Dad Road Map: "The Losing Attitude" will teach you the skills you will need to successfully navigate through Family Court from finding the right lawyer, to how to conduct yourself in the many situations that will unfold during the Family Court process when it comes to "gamesmanship"

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Our topic for this Sunday's call is “The Divorced Dad Roadmap - The Winning Hand”. Tonight's call continues The Divorced Dad Roadmap training calls for 2008. The Divorced Dad Roadmap is a process in which you can begin your preparations and review your progress as you prepare for Family Court proceedings. 

Do you even recognize when you have THE WINNING HAND? Many divorced dads don't even recognize what hand they are playing when they enter into the initial stages of separation and divorce. Many believe they can't win, let alone break even. As a result, many opportunities are lost at every step. The key strategy of successful divorced dads is to find a mentor who can teach them to accurately see what they are looking at, when they examine their situation.

Can you improve THE WINNING HAND? That's an absolute - with skill, any hand you are dealt can be improved upon if you know how. But often it means putting in time, effort and money. The problem for most divorced dads is where to begin…

Can you distinguish the WINNING HAND from THE LOSING HAND? Sometimes they are one and the same, depending on how you play that hand. It's a matter of perspective. Is your glass half empty or half full? Depends on what you as a person value and accentuate in the way you view the outside world, events and circumstances.

Can you improve THE LOSING HAND? Once again, that's an absolute - with skill, any hand you are dealt can be improved upon if you know how. But often it means putting in time, effort and money. The problem for most divorced dads is where to begin…

Many Divorced Dads can't tell the difference, because they are UNCLEAR about the "finer  points" of 'gamesmanship" when it comes to how things operate when one separates, divorces and enters the Family Court system.

Divorced dads don't have to be lost when it comes to where to begin, how to stay focused and how to reach their goals. In order to reach any destination, you need an accurate roadmap that will enable you to be able to judge with clarity and accuracy, where you've been, where you are and where you want to go to.

You've got to know the rules of the game to win. You also must properly define what winning is. Tonight we explore Winning = Peace For Your Child…

The Divorced Dad Road Map: "The Winning Hand" will teach you the skills you will need to successfully navigate through Family Court from finding the right lawyer, to how to conduct yourself in the many situations that will unfold during the Family Court process when it comes to "gamesmanship"

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 Podcast #18 - Divorced Dad Minute - Creating a Game Plan: Your Divorce Management Plan: Play Now | Play in Popup | Downloads 1296

Divorced dads need to create a game plan: Your divorce management plan is the # 1 thing you can do for yourself in order to have an organized approach that you can manage in a cost effective manner during separation and divorce. You will be able to properly strategize what your next moves will be.

Knowing what your next move takes you out of what we characterize as "The Divorce Fog": When you're going through this process, it can be really hard to think with any clarity. Men can actually have a more difficult time because they don't have the same support systems in place that women do.
 
People are often reactionary at this time - Having a divorce management plan keeps them from being reactionary. Having a divorce management plan keeps you focused in a positive proactive way, especially when things go "off the rails"
 
Divorce 101 can help any divorced dad begin work on a divorce management plan. There are seven steps:

STEP #1: Invigoration

STEP #2: Communication

STEP #3: Education

STEP #4: Negotiation

STEP #5: Mediation

STEP #6: Enrichment

STEP #7: Litigation

These are the steps to applying this formula successfully:

Winning = Peace For Your Child

In the next installment of Divorced Dad Minute we will explore these steps in depth. If however you are wanting to dig right in, sign up for our newsletter and receive our special report:

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Our topic for this Sunday's call is “The Divorced Dad Roadmap - The Winning Attitude”. Tonight's call continues The Divorced Dad Roadmap 101 training calls for 2008. The Divorced Dad Roadmap is a process in which you can begin your preparations and review your progress as you prepare for Family Court proceedings. 

"Winners never QUIT and QUITTERS never win…" That's one of the key "compass headings" we will be discussing tonight. There are six more to developing "THE WINNING ATTITUDE", so you will recognize "THE WINNING HAND" (two weeks from tonight's topic by the way….) and distinguish it from "THE LOSING HAND"… (three weeks from tonight). Many Divorced Dads can't tell the difference, because they are UNCLEAR about the "finer  points".

It is said that "The Devil is in the Details…" We say that is how to easily spot and recognize:  

"THE LOSING HAND"…

Einstein once said: "God does not play dice with the Universe". He understood the mathematical certainty of:  

"THE WINNING HAND"

We've often said: The Universe always knows what it is doing, it is we who do not understand….and Patience is a Virtue……when you have "THE LOSING HAND"… The trick is to know that they are actually one in the same.

Every coin has an edge, a head and a tail. But it is still a coin. It depends on how you describe the coin, what perspective you focus upon. Come join us - Have a seat and relax tonight as we help you to develop "THE WINNING ATTITUDE"….in The Divorced Dad Roadmap - Module One. You'll discover that  PREPARATION is ESSENTIAL to SUCCESS. You must begin working on your Divorced Dad Roadmap TODAY in order to optimize your chances of success NOW.

Many divorced dads are completely lost when it comes to where to begin, how to stay focused and how to reach their goals. In order to reach any destination, you need an accurate roadmap that will enable you to be able to judge with clarity and accuracy, where you've been, where you are and where you want to go to. The Divorced dad Road map: "The Winning Attitude" will teach you the skills you will need to successfully navigate through Family Court from finding the right lawyer, to how to conduct yourself in the many situations that will unfold during the Family Court process.

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